£7.50p a pint. That’s it I’m out

£7.50p a pint. That’s it I’m out

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generationx

6,173 posts

100 months

Wednesday 1st November
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Scabutz said:
Eldest wanted to go to the pub as youngest was trick and treating.

Went for a couple of diet cokes at the local st pit. £3.05 for a coke. I can understand beer production can be expensive but 3 fking quid for some post mix syrup and fizzy water.

It's annoying as that pub used to be st, but cheap. Now it's just st.
Soft drinks are always hideously expensive in pubs which is why I stick to beer. It’s what pubs are for.

joshcowin

6,665 posts

171 months

Wednesday 1st November
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Driver101 said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Driver101 said:
As Tamore says Wetherspoons expect their beer for next to nothing. I've heard of other small breweries being asked to supply beer at a loss. Then when they are selling it in the pubs you've got discounts through CAMRA. Their practices are not good for breweries or other pubs.

I don't think that it's the posher pubs that are struggling the most. The pubs I'm seeing closing are the older tired pubs. I don't think that the price is the biggest factor when choosing where to go out.
Like anything in life Spoons aren't the only pub for miles - don't like their price, don't sell to them then I say.

Lots of start up brewers started over the last few years.
Wetherspoons have a tie in with CAMRA. That drives customers to drink in these places.

Breweries are closing at an increasing rate.

I don't understand why so many people that claim to be beer fans are happy to cause harm to the industry.
The same people moan about the state of the high streets and towns whilst shopping on Amazon for everything. Us humans are odd sometimes!

K50 DEL

9,163 posts

223 months

Wednesday 1st November
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
Driver101 said:
That is one of the things for me as well. A good pub might be a £1-2 more expensive per drink, but for a good night out that is worth it. Unless you're drinking to excess then the cost difference isn't significant.

A lot of the Wetherspoons pubs are just large scale drinking dens. They pull in all the stag parties, pre drinkers tanking up and alcoholics as they are the cheap option.

Too much of the antisocial behaviour and drunkenness stems from pubs like Wetherspoons selling too much drink too cheaply.
Have you ever been inside one?

I've never had an issue in one.
Same here, in fact in my town the Spoons is my go to if I fancy a drink with mates or a meal that doesn't cost the earth.
Of the other pubs we have 2 are fighty places and one is trying for London prices with no atmosphere (or customers)

It does vary though, the next town over to me the spoons is an absolute hole!

wibble cb

3,467 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st November
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blingybongy said:
Driver101 said:
I think there should be minimum pricing in pubs and shops. When drink is too cheap it only encourages excessive drinking.

Alcohol should be more expensive to help contribute to all the knock on issues it causes. We shouldn't have pints at £1.30 or £1.50.
Fine idea.
It really isn’t, we have mandated base prices here in Ontario , all it really does is ensure the industry operates as a cartel, there is virtually no difference between any of the (few) retailers we have in terms of pricing , it feels like soviet era Russia here sometimes, being told where I can buy alcohol and how much I have to pay….(ok, it’s not quite that bad, but it is compared to the UK).


Edited by wibble cb on Wednesday 1st November 23:24

tamore

6,300 posts

279 months

Thursday 2nd November
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not sure about minimum pricing, but you certainly shouldn't be able to sell it at a loss routinely.

Lester H

2,594 posts

100 months

Friday 10th November
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Re-read the entire thread. Two strands emerge: “ I don’t mind paying more for a good ambiance with attractive customers” and “ I’m not going to be ripped off, I’m going to Wetherspoons”. The first is fine if it’s a nice night out, or in an upmarket food led pub where you go for a civilised evening with partner, or on a birthday, etc where you factor in the ambience surcharge. However, the second scenario applies when you visit a street corner local, or pop in on the way home for a swift drink(s).In the latter case, the prices are becoming excessive and consequently, there are fewer customers in these ‘real’ pubs, and for a shorter time. One of the many posters pointed out that price increases are not the answer to lack of so-called footfall. Yes, we all know about energy prices, but if beer prices are realistic, a punters one pint can become four, etc…

TheJimi

24,377 posts

238 months

Friday 10th November
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K50 DEL said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Driver101 said:
That is one of the things for me as well. A good pub might be a £1-2 more expensive per drink, but for a good night out that is worth it. Unless you're drinking to excess then the cost difference isn't significant.

A lot of the Wetherspoons pubs are just large scale drinking dens. They pull in all the stag parties, pre drinkers tanking up and alcoholics as they are the cheap option.

Too much of the antisocial behaviour and drunkenness stems from pubs like Wetherspoons selling too much drink too cheaply.
Have you ever been inside one?

I've never had an issue in one.
Same here, in fact in my town the Spoons is my go to if I fancy a drink with mates or a meal that doesn't cost the earth.
Of the other pubs we have 2 are fighty places and one is trying for London prices with no atmosphere (or customers)

It does vary though, the next town over to me the spoons is an absolute hole!
Anyone reading this thread and then going into a Wethersooons for the first time could be forgiven for expecting to have to duck the flying chairs as they walk through the door hehe


Driver101

14,117 posts

116 months

Friday 10th November
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joshcowin said:
Driver101 said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Driver101 said:
As Tamore says Wetherspoons expect their beer for next to nothing. I've heard of other small breweries being asked to supply beer at a loss. Then when they are selling it in the pubs you've got discounts through CAMRA. Their practices are not good for breweries or other pubs.

I don't think that it's the posher pubs that are struggling the most. The pubs I'm seeing closing are the older tired pubs. I don't think that the price is the biggest factor when choosing where to go out.
Like anything in life Spoons aren't the only pub for miles - don't like their price, don't sell to them then I say.

Lots of start up brewers started over the last few years.
Wetherspoons have a tie in with CAMRA. That drives customers to drink in these places.

Breweries are closing at an increasing rate.

I don't understand why so many people that claim to be beer fans are happy to cause harm to the industry.
The same people moan about the state of the high streets and towns whilst shopping on Amazon for everything. Us humans are odd sometimes!
Good point.

If something is cheap people are willing to ignore and tolerate so much more.



Edited by Driver101 on Saturday 11th November 08:17

joshcowin

6,665 posts

171 months

Saturday 11th November
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Lester H said:
Re-read the entire thread. Two strands emerge: “ I don’t mind paying more for a good ambiance with attractive customers” and “ I’m not going to be ripped off, I’m going to Wetherspoons”. The first is fine if it’s a nice night out, or in an upmarket food led pub where you go for a civilised evening with partner, or on a birthday, etc where you factor in the ambience surcharge. However, the second scenario applies when you visit a street corner local, or pop in on the way home for a swift drink(s).In the latter case, the prices are becoming excessive and consequently, there are fewer customers in these ‘real’ pubs, and for a shorter time. One of the many posters pointed out that price increases are not the answer to lack of so-called footfall. Yes, we all know about energy prices, but if beer prices are realistic, a punters one pint can become four, etc…
But the cost to produce the pint is high! From hop prices to transport cost prices are high! Brewing is a high energy process. The thing that dictates beer cost is production cost!


Leithen

10,329 posts

262 months

Saturday 11th November
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Inflation. It's a bd.

tamore

6,300 posts

279 months

Saturday 11th November
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joshcowin said:
But the cost to produce the pint is high! From hop prices to transport cost prices are high! Brewing is a high energy process. The thing that dictates beer cost is production cost!
no it isn't.

CanAm

8,761 posts

267 months

Saturday 11th November
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W11PEL said:
Actually I was flat hunting in Eastern Europe a few weeks ago.

£2 a pint there.

Will advise on Mexico when I get there!
I was in Pilsen a few years ago and was shocked that beer prices had gone up by about a third since my previous visit. I calmed down when I realised it was still only around £1.50 a pint!

Cotty

38,585 posts

279 months

Saturday 11th November
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joshcowin said:
But the cost to produce the pint is high! From hop prices to transport cost prices are high! Brewing is a high energy process. The thing that dictates beer cost is production cost!
No it isn't. A pint of lager is about £6 in a pub but you can buy an 18 cans for £14.

Square Leg

14,404 posts

184 months

Sunday 12th November
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Was in a small town pub just outside of Nottingham last week - had a few 330ml bottles of Duvel 666 and very cleverly it was priced at £6.66…

Devilishly nice beer though.

Sheets Tabuer

18,595 posts

210 months

Sunday 12th November
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I spent £22 on a double single malt last night, made the £7 pint of stella look cheap, it was in a hotel mind you.

sutoka

4,611 posts

103 months

Went to a modern fancy woodfired pizza place with the missus recently. Wine and beer was £6 as expected, San Pelly was £3 seemed to be the norm.
What really left a bad taste in my mouth was the missus ask for a jug of tap water as she always does, it has always been free even in high end establishments.

This place put on the receipt ' Water X2' -£5 when I questioned it they said "didn't you have two water bottles of tonic", then when I went up to pay they did that thing I've seen many times when staff get rumbled, all quiet and awkward.