UK bike sales plummet

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Court_S

12,052 posts

172 months

Terry Winks said:
You're not wrong, I had a Raleigh Hotfoot in 1992 I think for my 10th birthday, I loved it but I think even then it was largely terrible, a friend of mine had a Peugeot and that seemed to be a different league, with some other friends rocked up on their Muddy Foxes that was just another world again, those Shimano SIS gears were the things of envy. The Raleigh activator was just pap from the start, and I managed to avoid M-Trax which I think was just overpriced rubbish until 1997 I had enough I got my Kona Lavadome, and those old Kona catalogues, admittedly between 1992 and 1997 things had moved on massively but that was another world too. Ahhh the 90's they were great weren't they?
Aesthetically, Kona peaked in 1997. The colours, decals etc were just bang on. The Lava Dome looked fab in that dark green…in size size small with some chunky forks that was the pinnacle of cool for me. After my steel Rockhopper was stolen, I bought a Kona Koa which I absolutely adored.

mooseracer

1,658 posts

165 months

Fusion777 said:
James6112 said:
Same as any other Brand winding down in the Uk
Amazing how some people don't realise/appreciate Raleigh's significance in cycling history.
Assuming the capital B was intentional that was quite good

Dog Star

15,721 posts

163 months

Yesterday (11:32)
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I really don’t think the weather this year has helped; I live in an excellent area for MTBing, it’s superb and normally I’m out with my mates every other day. However this year has been spectacularly bad - June 26th was the end of summer, bar a couple of hot days at the start of September. It has basically poured down since, every day I think. Never known it as bad. Ok, MTBing is often muddy but this level of wet and muddy gets old real fast. I’ve been out maybe five times this “summer” and autumn. Same with my mates.

My point being that the weather this year must have had some impact on the cycle market and therefore accessories etc.

Court_S

12,052 posts

172 months

Yesterday (20:22)
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Dog Star said:
I really don’t think the weather this year has helped; I live in an excellent area for MTBing, it’s superb and normally I’m out with my mates every other day. However this year has been spectacularly bad - June 26th was the end of summer, bar a couple of hot days at the start of September. It has basically poured down since, every day I think. Never known it as bad. Ok, MTBing is often muddy but this level of wet and muddy gets old real fast. I’ve been out maybe five times this “summer” and autumn. Same with my mates.

My point being that the weather this year must have had some impact on the cycle market and therefore accessories etc.
This summer was wk…it’s continued into autumn too. We had one freakishly nice weekend in October but since then it’s been wet as. I had a quick local ride on Saturday and it was pretty miserable.

If you’re on the fence about riding, it’s not going to encourage you.

nickfrog

20,387 posts

212 months

Yesterday (21:40)
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Summer has been decent here in Sussex, I probably got 2 rides a week on average although I am flexible on which day I ride so that helps making the most of the weather.

I stopped riding from November to March a few years ago though. Not worth it anymore for me as I have tennis instead in the winter!

OutInTheShed

6,265 posts

21 months

Yesterday (21:47)
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nickfrog said:
Summer has been decent here in Sussex, I probably got 2 rides a week on average although I am flexible on which day I ride so that helps making the most of the weather.

I stopped riding from November to March a few years ago though. Not worth it anymore for me as I have tennis instead in the winter!
I ride more in the winter as I'm not sailing and the roads are less busy.

I think the UK bike sales thing is as simple as: 'Everyone who wants one has already got (at least) one!'

People who are likely to buy 'gravel' bought in the last 3 years, now the market is ticking over.
The rest of the market is well served by quality used bikes from the last 10-15 years, so demand for new is limited.

nickfrog

20,387 posts

212 months

Yesterday (22:22)
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Fair enough, I only ride off-road, which in winter is basically a quagmire where I am!




Edited by nickfrog on Tuesday 21st November 22:30

Chicken Chaser

7,578 posts

219 months

Yesterday (23:28)
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nickfrog said:
Fair enough, I only ride off-road, which in winter is basically a quagmire where I am!




Edited by nickfrog on Tuesday 21st November 22:30
That's like the Jurassic slop on the top of the NYM.it sticks to tyres and destroys mudguards.

GravelBen

15,458 posts

225 months

OutInTheShed said:
I think the UK bike sales thing is as simple as: 'Everyone who wants one has already got (at least) one!'
yes

Thats it to a degree I think - and its not just the UK, its most places AFAIK - same here in NZ and in the USA from what I hear.

Inflation is biting, living costs and interest rates are up, which means most people have less disposable income and are more likely to keep the bike they already have for longer instead of buying a shiny new one that isn't much (if any) better.

At the risk of introducing politics to the discussion, the inflation (and perhaps to a lesser degree the boom/bust supply and demand situation) was a pretty predictable outcome from most western governments 'stop people working and print more money' response to covid. It shouldn't be a surprise.

Edited by GravelBen on Wednesday 22 November 03:51

YorkshireStu

4,032 posts

195 months

GravelBen said:
yes

Thats it to a degree I think - and its not just the UK, its most places AFAIK - same here in NZ and in the USA from what I hear.

Inflation is biting, living costs and interest rates are up, which means most people have less disposable income and are more likely to keep the bike they already have for longer instead of buying a shiny new one that isn't much (if any) better.

At the risk of introducing politics to the discussion, the inflation (and perhaps to a lesser degree the boom/bust supply and demand situation) was a pretty predictable outcome from most western governments 'stop people working and print more money' response to covid. It shouldn't be a surprise.

Edited by GravelBen on Wednesday 22 November 03:51
Yes, it is all of this and another factor is that the bike industry ramped up production during Covid to meet demand at the time globally and kept it going too long - when the pandemic ended, sales slowed and there was a huge overstock of certain bikes and parts.

This overstock has caused a major problem for the industry because it is essentially ‘old’ stuff not selling while manufacturers keep wanting to add new designs to market.

Part of the overstock issue is that some components have not been overstocked because of supply chain issues since the pandemic and this means complete bike builds are delayed in some cases leaving a bizarre situation of too many or one part, too little of the other.

The combination of all you have written and the issues above have caused serious cash flow problems and hence the collapsing of big retailers.

YorkshireStu

4,032 posts

195 months

nickfrog said:
Summer has been decent here in Sussex, I probably got 2 rides a week on average although I am flexible on which day I ride so that helps making the most of the weather.

I stopped riding from November to March a few years ago though. Not worth it anymore for me as I have tennis instead in the winter!
I ride all year round. I simply choose between road, MTB or gravel. I have Summer and Winter road bikes but if the weather is icy, I take the gravel bike on the road.

I don’t like a lot of mud when off-road, not a fan having done most of my MTB racing in hot, dry climates so mostly avoid it here in Blighty.